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"The "Ganzfeld Experiment"

Posted Nov. 28, 2013 by dustproduction in Open

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commented on Dec. 5, 2013
by dustproduction



In ""Science of Noetic Experience" which is posted on this website Daryl Bem makes the following statement"

" In science generally, a phenomenon is not considered a reliable fact until it has been observed repeatedly by numerous independent researchers."
Bem's point is that experiences that are conducted at INOS attempts to mean the standards of traditional science. Therefore this discussion will not focus on the debate of traditional science and its role in IONS.

Bem then writes:
"The "Ganzfeld experiment" provides an independently repeatable demonstration of telepathy under rigorously controlled conditions, and it has been repeatedly discussed in mainstream academic psychology journals."

This discussion is intended to focus on the truth of the statement. Which scientist's agree and which disagree. Please provide supporting references.

This is the link to the rest of the Audio Teleseminars: http://www.noetic.org/library/audio-teleseminars/science-of-noetic-experience-with-daryl-bem/

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    dustproduction Dec 05, 2013

    "Near the end of her encounter with the White Queen, Alice protests that “one can’t believe impossible things,” a sentiment with which the 34% of academic psychologists who consider psi to be impossible would surely agree. The White Queen famously retorted, “I daresay you haven’t had much practice. When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”

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    dustproduction Nov 29, 2013

    Thank you for responding.

    Terence Hines (2003) has written the ganzfeld studies cannot be said to provide evidence for psi as the alleged evidence disappears as the tightness of experimental controls is increased. As research progresses variables in science become clearer as more studies are published that describe under what specific condition the particular effect can be demonstrated. This is in opposition to the ganzfeld studies. According to Hines "After all this time, there is no clear way to obtain results showing any psychic phenomenon reliably. By far the most reasonable conclusion is that such effects do not now and never have existed." Terence Hines. (2003). Pseudoscience and the Paranormal. Prometheus Books. pp. 137-138.

    This conflicts with Bem's statement

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    RealityOverScience Nov 29, 2013

    The Consciousness/Enlightenment (Universal Physics awareness/fluency) levels would need to be measured in each participant for the outcome to have any meaningful, accurate application.

    A receiver, for instance, could not be concluded as having contributed anything to the cause if that person was unconscious and the sender was superConscious and did all the work for both sides. Invertedly, as well.

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    dustproduction Nov 28, 2013

    "In a typical ganzfeld experiment, a "receiver" is placed in a room relaxing in a comfortable chair with halved ping-pong balls over the eyes, having a red light shone on them. The receiver also wears a set of headphones through which white or pink noise (static) is played. The receiver is in this state of mild sensory deprivation for half an hour. During this time, a "sender" observes a randomly chosen target and tries to mentally send this information to the receiver. The receiver speaks out loud during the thirty minutes, describing what he or she can see. This is recorded by the experimenter (who is blind to the target) either by recording onto tape or by taking notes, and is used to help the receiver during the judging procedure.
    In the judging procedure, the receiver is taken out of the ganzfeld state and given a set of possible targets, from which they must decide which one most resembled the images they witnessed. Most commonly there are three decoys along with a copy of the target itself, giving an expected overall hit rate of 25% over several dozens of trials"

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